[SIP] Comment ondraft-moyer-sip-appliances-framework-00.txt

[Jonathan Rosenberg]

Stan Moyer wrote:
> 
> At 11:36 PM 8/3/2000 -0400, Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:
> >  So there will
> > > be a great need to address them as they move between locations and domains.
> > > Henning has already mentioned the possibility of 'naming' your appliances,
> > > so that my kitchen stove could be stove@simon.home.net.  This reference can
> > > then be added to your 'favourites' address book.    Using HTTP to do this
> > > will require explicit addressing (like the SLP URL Stan showed in the
> > > presentation yesterday) for every single request, and cannot support the
> > > more friendly object@domain representation.
> >
> >Why isn't the addressing http://simon.home.net/stove? I can't add this
> >to my bookmarks? The addressing is just as explicit as in the SIP case.
> 
> How do you know that's the address? 


How did you know the address was stove@simon.home.net? The URL above is
merely a syntactic translation. Web servers act as fronts for data
stored, in fact, elsewhere. Same case here.


> Also what's the address for subscribing for the event that the timer has
> gone off and my meal is done -- you probably can't (or at least shouldn't)
> use http for that?

No, probably not. This debate is going on in another thread on the
sip-events list.

> I would argue that the reasons you are arguing for convergence in the
> thread, "Re: [SIP] a proposal for a way to compromise? (really, not a
> joke)" , e.g.,
> 
> >...Let us not bypass the benefits afforded to users of the system. I think
> >it is fair to say users will want to have services that integrate
> >presence with voice, video, and other communications. Thats happening
> >today. By using the same infrastructure for the two, some neat services
> >become possible ...
> 
> are many of the same reasons you would want to use SIP for networked
> appliances/devices.

I don't see the analogy. Presence, voice, video are all forms of
communications. Its reasonable to want to screen an IM from someone and
their phone calls at the same time. In what ways would I want services
which integrate me talking to my refrigerator and me controlling it?

-Jonathan R.

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